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ewing2001
Sun Jan 29 2006, 11:49AM Quote
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www.aetv.com/listings/episode_details.do?episodeid=111999
I Missed Flight 93
Upcoming Airings:
Sunday, January 29 @ 2pm/1C
Saturday, February 04 @ 11am/10C Note that a huge number of
"flight93" passengers rebooked from "flight91"
Here is a summary from a team8plus-correspondent, who just watched
it:
"....It was about three people who had planned to go on flight 93
but then didn't. One, whose name was given as Frank Robertazzi,
said he decided to leave a little later than the time
scheduled for flight 93 so he changed his ticket for a
seat
on flight 91, which was scheduled to leave at 9 a.m. TV
viewers were given a shot of the ticket. It listed UA 91, September
11, gate 18, boarding at 8:50 a.m. According to Mr. Robertazzi, he
went to the airport to catch that flight but was told it was
cancelled because of the plane that flew into Tower One.
I'm not sure how this information fits the puzzle other than to
point out that he obviously wasn't changed from flight 91 to flight
93. I had taped the show and wrote down Mr. Robertazzi's
comment.
He said flight 91 was still waiting on the runway when news came
about flight 11 and that it (flight 91) was cancelled and the
airport was closed...."
www.bts.gov/programs/airline_information/airline_ontime_statistics/
http://www.bts.gov/cgi-bin/ntda/oai/DetailedStatistics/OAI_B1.PL?DetSta=DepSta&FirLevSel=DetSta
Newark, NJ, Scheduled Departure Time:
UA 09/11/2001 0091 UNKNOW SFO 9:20
UA 09/11/2001 0093 N591UA SFO 8:00
Actual Departure Time:
UA 09/11/2001 0091 UNKNOW SFO 0:00
UA 09/11/2001 0093 N591UA SFO 8:01
Wheels-off-Time:
UA 09/11/2001 0091 UNKNOW SFO 0:00
UA 09/11/2001 0093 N591UA SFO 8:28
Note, that "UA93" departed finally at 8:28 AM, but the official
version claims, it departed at 8:42.
Enough time for yet another "passenger switch":
www.flight93crash.com/flight93_timeline.html
"....This Pittsburgh Post Gazette has added a ... timeline on
10/29/01 here. Read it.
--8:42 a.m.: United Airlines flight 93 takes off from Newark
International Airport. (40 minute delay from schedule 8:02)...
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ewing2001
Sun Jan 29 2006, 12:59PM Quote
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see also
www.team8plus.org/content.php?article.8
Something Strange about Flight 93
Were any of the passengers supposed to be on the flight?
12 August 2005
By Frank Levi, team8plus
"...on further examination of the stories of the flight
93 passengers I found something quite startling. The following
table details
all the passengers and crew that were on this flight by chance -
mostly moving
from other flights. There are some, like Alan Beaven who were
reluctantly
called out to last minute meetings...."
ewing2001
Sun Jan 29 2006, 01:22PM Quote
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...and more on other survivors like Boonton resident Daniel
Belardinelli. It isn't clear from this article below, if he also
booked for "flight 91" first....
2 Morris men linked by chance and Flight 93
A&E to profile how they cheated death on 9/11
www.dailyrecord.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060125/NEWS01/601250337/1005
01/25/06
"...Belardinelli, 43, was supposed to be with his 60-year-old uncle
William Cashman, who at that very moment was on a San
Francisco-bound flight
out of Newark. Several weeks before,
however, Belardinelli had to cancel his plans to join his uncle for
a vacation.
Around the same time that morning in New Jersey, East Hanover
resident Frank Robertazzi, 47, was busy dropping off his little
girl at school.
He was supposed to take an 8 a.m. flight at 8 a.m.
for a business trip, but Robertazzi decided to take a later flight
because he loved
taking his daughter to school. He then drove off
to Newark Airport.
That was the morning of September 11, 2001. The flight that both
Morris County men missed was United Airlines Flight 93 -
- the plane
that plummeted to the ground in Shanksville, Pa. after the
passengers on board attempted to wrestle control of the plane from
the terrorists.
These two men have never met, but their lives became forever linked
when they managed to cheat death after missing the same flight.
Now, their stories will be told starting this Friday in a special
Arts & Entertainment Network show "I Missed Flight 93."
The
show will feature Belardinelli, Robertazzi and a third woman who
also was slated to fly to San Francisco that day...
...In Robertazzi's case, he boarded Flight 91, which was
supposed to leave Newark at 9 a.m.
The flight never got off
the
ground and the passengers were told the airport was closing.
www.aetv.com/listings/episode_details.do?episodeid=111999
I Missed Flight 93
Upcoming Airings:
Sunday, January 29 @ 2pm/1C
Saturday, February 04 @ 11am/10C
ewing2001
Sun Jan 29 2006, 02:18PM Quote
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More on the profile of Frank Robertazzi
http://159.54.227.3/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060127/LIVING/60127041/1004
The Olympian, Jan 27, 2006
"...Frank Robertazzi, Daniel Belardinelli and Heather Ogle
are among the people who ? by quirks
of fate ? narrowly escaped death by missing their flight (the
infamous Flight 93) on September 11, 2001..."
Here another story, how he changed from flight 93 to flight 91.
http://www.nj.com/columns/ledger/saha/index.ssf?/base/columns-0/1138254103118610.xml&coll=1
January 26, 2006
Back in September of 2001, Frank Robertazzi of East Hanover
traveled quite often between Newark and San Francisco.
He favored
the 8 a.m. flight, United Airlines Flight 93. That meant he got
into
California by 11 a.m., he said, which meant he could get in a
business lunch after arriving.
But on September 11, 2001, Robertazzi had no lunch scheduled. And
more importantly, school had just
started, and Robertazzi was having a wonderful time taking his
five-year-old daughter, Aubri, to
kindergarten. So he called United and changed his flight,
from
Flight 93 at 8 a.m. to Flight 91 at 9
a.m..."
http://www.hazlitt.org/united/
"... Maureen Robertazzi. Wife of frequent flyer supposed to be on
Flight 93 9-11-01...."
[ Edited Sun Jan 29 2006,
02:24PM
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ewing2001
Mon Jan 30 2006, 12:32AM Quote
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Robertazzi, another high tech specialist, protected by
9/11-Insiders in time?
...like many other September 11th 'passengers', (especially on
"flight 11" and "flight 77" -both flights did not exist in the BTS
database!)
also Robertazzi was a high tech specialist,
apparently in the semiconductor industry at CML Innovative, which
is an aviation contractor.
Robertazzi's company is located at Hackensack, NJ 07601
http://www.chml.com/contact.cfm
http://www.chml.com/aviation/index.cfm
"...Every aviation lamp we produce is designed to meet or exceed
critical requirements for light output and service life..."
http://www.emsnow.com/npps/story.cfm?ID=16606
"The Global Source for the electronic manufacturing serices
industry"
Jan 10, 2006
"...NEDA's 2006 Electronic and TMC Development Forum "Redefining
Business Fundamentals" at the Loews Ventana Canyon Resort in
Tucson...
...Frank Robertazzi of CML Innovative Technologies..."
No substitute for consumption
http://www.my-esm.com/print/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=19205584
05/01/2004
By Frank Robertazzi
"... Once again, the semiconductor industry is plumbing the depths
of one of its untamed business cycles...."
http://www.chml.com/cml.cfm
"...CML Innovative Technologies is known worldwide for its ability
to provide high tech solutions for applications throughout the
aviation,
automotive, consumer electronics and telecommunications
industries..."
Robertazzi is also "vice president, worldwide geographic sales,
semiconductor products, Agilent"
http://www.reed-electronics.com/eb-mag/article/CA405741?pubdate=4%2F1%2F2004
which is also an Aerospace-, Defense and Homeland Security
Contractor.
http://www.investor.agilent.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=103274&p=irol-govBoard
Board of Directors
[ Edited Mon Jan 30 2006,
01:42PM
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John Doe II
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Rory Owens Murray will forever take comfort in the final moments
she spent with her husband, John, on the morning of September 11.
He
was headed to work at Cantor Fitzgerald Securities in the World Trade
Center
and she was leaving for Newark Airport
to catch a 9:20 a.m. flight to
San Francisco for a business trip.
"When we said goodbye, it was
full ofkisses and hugs and I-love-yous because we thought we wouldn't
see
each
other for a week," she said. Mrs.
Murray boarded
United Flight 91 with her mother and 5-month-old daughter,
Alyson Rose, but it never left
the gate.
The flight attendants announced that a plane had
crashed
into one of the World Trade Center towers. "Jack" Murray would have
celebrated
his 33rd birthday September 17. "What is the hardest for me is that
our daughter won't have the benefit of knowing her father," she
said.
Friends have decided to compile a scrapbook of letters and photos
that the child may read as she grows up, she said. "He was an
amazing
father. I am sure so many people are saying that. But I do feel
blessed within five months of her life, he has shaped her personality,"
Mrs.
Murray said. "He loved music, he loved to laugh. He was a very
happy person who was at peace with himself."
The Hoboken couple married
in 1999 and moved to London in 2000, returning this year for the birth
of their daughter. Mr. Murray graduated from Salesianum High School
in Wilmington, Del., in 1986 and Boston College in 1990. After working
at other Wall Street firms, he joined Cantor Fitzgerald in
1995, where
he
was partner and director. Some described him as "driven," said
his brother-in-law, Arthur Owens of Brooklyn, "but to me, he always
seemed very relaxed.
He didn't seem like a stressed-out guy. In spite of
the fact of how busy he was, he was always available to his family."
Five years ago, Mr. Murray founded "Putt for Progress," a foundation
that raised money to study scleroderma, the chronic autoimmune disease
of the connective tissue. He was an avid sportsman and a member of
the Rock Spring Country Club in West Orange. Mr. Murray also is
survived by his parents, Philip and Mary Louise Murray of Wilmington;
two
brothers, Philip and Michael; three sisters, Catherine, Virginia and
Jayne,
and his grandmother.
http://tinyurl.com/4bp4u
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Thu Feb 02 2006, 08:12AM Quote
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(*thx to Killtown for transcripting)
(*thx to Killtown for transcripting)
A&E's 'Flight 93' gets it right, no 757 at
Shanksville!
From the movie
www.aetv.com/flight_93/index.jsp
"Is there a plane in there?"
"We don't know yet..."
"What do you mean?"
"...we're still looking for it...at first we thought
it was
in the hole, but there's nothing in there..."
"It must have landed in the woods, we haven't found it
yet..."
"We're talking about a 757, here...it's a huge plane..."
"Yea, we know...you can help us look for it if you
want..."
Watch the trailer here:
www.loosechange911.com/flight93.mov
[ Edited Thu Feb 02 2006,
08:13AM
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ewing2001
Wed Feb 08 2006, 02:33PM Quote
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Some notes about the uncle from Belardinelli, who did not
survive "flight93":
www.post-gazette.com/headlines/20011028flt93cashmanbiop8.asp
Passenger: William Cashman
Sunday, October 28, 2001
"...Cashman worked with his hands like his brother, a fellow
ironworker, and father, a construction worker.
Cashman served in
the early 1960s as a paratrooper in the 101st Airborne Division,
known as the Screaming Eagles...."
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Wed Feb 08 2006, 03:10PM Quote
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flight93"- 'survivor' has multiple links with United
Airlines
Female "flight93"- 'survivor' has multiple links with
United Airlines
Prior Knowledge, helped out by friends of her parents?:
abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=1556671&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312
Jan. 30, 2006
"...Heather Ross Ogle didn't want to wake up on September 11,
2001..."
Ross' own United Airlines "connection":
www-med.stanford.edu/shs/update/archives/oct2001/flight.html
OCTOBER 2001
"...Stanford emergency physician Heather Ross, stayed up late on
September 10 at her parents' New York home.
In the morning,
September 11, she overslept and missed her 8 a.m. plane - United
Airlines Flight 93...
...Ross, who is a flight surgeon for United
...John Ogle, also a staff physician in the emergency
department...
...He's in the California Air National Guard. This guy jumps from
airplanes..."
Did someone related with UA or the "Air Rescue Team" warned Ross in
time not to take this flight and 'rescued' her as well?
Same Emergency Medicine Physician (Stanford) linked to UA and "Air
Rescue Service":
flightphysical.com/aboutbizes/hrbiz.htm
Dr. Heather Ross
Role Founder
Title Co-Founder
Other Affiliations United Airlines / Stanford Hospital
Functions Strategic Planning, Public and Customer Relations,
Graphic Design, Content Management, Airline Relations
Prior Experience Dr. Ross has worked as a flight surgeon at United
Airlines and is an Attending Physician at the Stanford University
hospital.
She has also served as aeromedical advisor for the Royal Australian
Air Rescue Service. She is board certified in Emergency
Medicine.
Employment History
Company Title Years
Stanford University Attending Physician 1999-2000
SC Valley Med Ctr Attending Physician 1997-2000
United Airlines Flight Surgeon 1999-2000
Education
Institution Degree Year
Sackler School of Medicine MD 93
Dr. Heather Ross's team members of FlightPhysical
multiply linked to United Airlines and U.S. Military
FlightPhysical.com Staff -- About Our Team
[64.233.179.104]
http://flightphysical.com/
Survivor-Husband promoted for NASA:
John Ogle, MD, MPH, FACEP is a commercial pilot and physician. Lt
Col Ogle serves as Chief of Aerospace Medicine,
153rd MDG, WY Air
National Guard.
...Flight Surgeon in the Air National Guard...part time as a
airline flight surgeon for United Airlines..."
"...in September 2003, he was interviewed by NASA for a Mission
Specialist Astronaut position...
Another member named "Scott Ogle" (possibly related to her husband
John Ogle) is senior product manager for Merrill Lynch:
flightphysical.com/aboutbizes/sobiz.htm
Major Tony Bondoc
"...Major in the California Air National Guard, he is an active
member of the 129th Air Rescue Wing..."
Other Affiliations:
flightphysical.com/aboutbizes/tbbiz.htm
US Air Force, United Airlines
US Air Force Captain 1997-2000
United Airlines Physician's Assistant 1999-2000
Dr. Tammy Foster
US Air Force, United Airlines
Other members:
flightphysical.com/aboutbizes/ccbiz.htm
Captain Chris Callahan, United Airlines pilot with 16 years
aviation experience.
Former US Air Force pilot and corporate jet
pilot...
[ Edited Wed Feb 08 2006, 03:21PM ]
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