Among 9/11 oddities : the Pentagon scene.

Witness disbelief

A plane ?

• "My brain could not resolve the fact that it was a plane because it only seemed like a small hole in the building. No tail. No wings. No nothing". Steve DeChiaro
• "It just went 'pfff'. It wasn't what I would have expected for a plane that was not much more than a football field away from me" John O'Keefe
• "A huge jet. Then it was gone. Buildings don't eat planes. That plane, it just vanished. There should have been parts on the ground. It should have rained parts on my car. The airplane didn't crash. Where are the parts? There was a plane. It didn't go over the building. It went into the building. I want them to find it whole, wedged between floors or something. I want to make it make sense. I want to know why there's this gap in my memory, this gap that makes it seem as though the plane simply became invisible and banked up at the very last minute" Skarlet
• "It was in the air one moment and in the building the next... I still have a hard time believing it " M. K.
  

A missile ?

• "It was so eerily similar to another experience during the Gulf War - a missile strike that killed a Marine in my unit" Phillip Thompson
• "For those formerly in the military, it sounded like a 2000lb bomb going off" Terry Morin
• "A bomb had gone off. I could smell the cordite. I knew explosives had been set off somewhere" Don Perkal
• "Most people knew it was a bomb" John Bowman
• "It smelled like cordite, or gun smoke" Gilah Goldsmith
• "I knew it was a bomb or something" Mike Slater

Internet disbelief

Many did not believe the official explanation :

Killtown, Guardian, Cheryl Seal, D.Eastman, Fescado, Silent But Deadly, Hunt the Boeing, Pentagate, Amigaphil (translated), JAM, JP.Desm, 911review.org, Jim Hoffman, 911-strike.com , Dem. Und. Forum

Plane or missile ?

There was a plane :

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Many witnesses reported it. Browse along the witness accounts page. They saw a plane, they also reported jet fuel inside and outside, there was fuel inside a victim's lungs. Witnesses saw pieces of the plane's nose gear or some oxygen bottles. Air controllers (1 2) reported a plane aiming at the Pentagon.

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As in the Frank Probst statement, some pictures show that an emergency generator was shattered on its front and cut (gouge) on its rear top. It seems that both actions occured during the attack. I can hardly imagine a missile making this. (This Enercon generator is homed in a container, some kind like this)

The animation below was made using the exact measures and positions from the map below. The original size and position of the generator is taken from this picture.

The right engine may have struck the front of the generator while the "flap track 'canoe' fairing" was cutting the rear (see also here).

Was it a Boeing 757-200 ? On looking at the next diagram I doubt that this flap fairing was responsible for the gouge. It's believed that the plane was banking left and the other flap fairing seems too close. Maybe it was another plane. Hard to say, still some work to be done.

It was a plane but it was also a missile. Missiles are flying bombs. Whether the flying engine is behind the bomb or around the bomb, what's the difference ?

Here we try to support that the plane that crash in the Pentagon was a plane bomb, thus it was not flight AA77. Flight AA77 had its transponder turned off. For 30 minutes it was not clear where it was (see UnansweredQuestions.org). We do not discuss the fate of AA77, instead we focus on the Pentagon evidences. The plane bomb was probably an airliner tarted up as an American Airlines airliner. It was modified as a missile, it was remotely and/or automatically controlled. There were bombs on board, mostly bombs with a directed explosion (shaped charges) These bombs pierced the wall, they were detonated one after another before the contact with the Pentagon and possibly after, inside the building. Here are others observers thinking about the same : Cheryl Seal : "The plane exploded and was essentially vaporized the split second before actual impact with the wall", Leonard Spencer about flight 11 : "It was a custom-built military plane carrying three missiles".

Trajectory

• "Radar shows 'Flight 77' did a downward spiral, turning almost a complete circle and dropping the last 7,000 feet in two-and-a-half minutes. The steep turn was so smooth, the sources say, it's clear there was no fight for control going on. And the complex maneuver suggests the hijackers had better flying skills than many investigators first believed" CBS News

Maybe a too complex maneuver for flight AA77 :

• "The speed, the maneuverability, the way that he turned, we all thought in the radar room, all of us experienced air traffic controllers, that that was a military plane" O'Brien
• "Why the plane did not hit incoming traffic coming down the river from the north to Reagan Nat'l. is beyond me" Tom Hovi

Was this plane remotely controlled by a C-130 plane ?

• "a military plane was seen flying right behind it". Allen Cleveland
• "We constantly scanned skyward with our eyeball radar (...). The only large fixed wing aircraft to appear was a gray C-130, which appeared to be a Navy electronic warfare aircraft." OurNetFamily
• "The second plane looked similar to a C- 130 transport plane. It flew directly above the American Airlines jet, as if to prevent two planes from appearing on radar while at the same time guiding the jet toward the Pentagon." Keith Wheelhouse.

As of UnansweredQuestions.org : Officials said that this plane was sent to intercept flight AA77. Remarkably, this C-130 is too slow for the job and it is the same C-130 that is 17 miles from Flight 93 when it later crashes into the Pennsylvania countryside. Thus, this C-130 was at the right places at the right time while lately scrambled military jet fighters were anywhere else. The pilot of the C-130, Lt. Col. Steve O'Brien, is later interviewed, but his account differs from the on-the-ground eyewitnesses.

• "My brain could not resolve the fact that it was a plane because it only seemed like a small hole in the building". Steve DeChiaro

If the whole plane entered the building, we should see a hole in the front wall the size of the plane, like in the WTC attacks. We don't see this plane print on the Pentagon front wall, neither in the reconstructed photo above, neither in the original photos below.

Nevertheless, huge damages were reported inside, either by the Pentagon renovation manager and the American Society of Civil Engineers.

One debris

Mark D. Faram

There's been some discussions about this wreckage (Dick Eastman, Rense, Pentagate). Some discussed the accuracy of the colors, the lack of horizontal line of rivets or the shape of the painting.

Many pictures of American Airlines Boeing 757-200 can be found at www.airliners.net. You can even see the original AA77 plane : N644AA. It seems obvious that the above wreckage comes from the plane's livery, the red and white "American" logo.

From wich letter does this debris come ? Many agree that it can only match the shape of the 'n'. But even the 'n' don't match.

Moreover, in a discussion with Kjell Roald, we agreed that the rivets lines should stand horizontally as in the Airliners.net pic id 118463 or 352805. So the only match possible is the the 'c' (or 'e') as in the picture below.

The rivets line do match the plane horizontal rivets lines. They are evenly spaced on the debris. They are also evenly spaced on the plane but as of the round shape of the fuselage and as of a perspective effect they do not appear evenly spaced on the underlying pic 352805. I made this superimposition so that lines #2 & #3 match.

The round part of the letter match but the straight part don't. We were unable to find a match for this straight part. Some may argue that there's a persepective problem there, that the straight part comes from a further place in the logo. But the upper part of the strip seems close to the round part while it's lower part is further than the straight part because it's hidden by it. So it seems there's no big perspective effect there.

No debris

"A huge jet. Then it was gone. There should have been parts on the ground."

There's been a long discussuion on this lack of debris. Where is the 60 tons plane ?

Maybe the left engine ended in the North parking lot ( Tom McClain, Charles H. Krohn ).

It seems the nose gear ended in the Pentagon A-E drive, the route between the C ring and the B ring, close to the plane exit hole. Captain Defina, Walker Lee Evey ).

• "I didn't see any evidence of the aircraft down there" Terry Mitchell
• "No large pieces apparently survived" Michael Tamillow
• "All over the highway were small pieces of aircraft skin, none bigger than a half-dollar" Mark Faram

• "looked like white confetti raining down everywhere. The 'confetti' was little bits of airplane, falling down after being flung high into the bright, blue sky" Clyde Ragland
• "The sky was darker than normal, but still didn't think much of it. Then I saw little bits of silver falling from the sky" Will Jarvis
• "There was an enormous fireball, followed about two seconds later by debris raining down" Donald R. Bouchoux
• "When the debris shower stopped, people began getting out of their cars" DelawareOnLine
• "A column of 50 FBI officers walked shoulder-to-shoulder across the south grounds of the Pentagon, picking up debris" Washingtonpost